Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

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Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by ntxdave » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:16 pm

Continuing the discussion from the Save As PNG thread, I would like some feedback and advice on how to improve this approach to adding a TR image to a SketchUp LayOut document. I have to give you a link to the PDF file from LayOut because the TR image is too big to post here.
Sample 150ft Equipment Layout Render.pdf
Sample Equipment Layout
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I also had to scale it back to only the page that includes the rendered equipment image because the file was still to large to include the other page which includes a side and top view of the equipment, dimensions and other information (which is not rendered - just SketchUp drawings).


Here are the settings I used to create the TR image
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Render Settings
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I want to thank @pbabcot for some of the settings. I played with a lot of them before settling in on the ones I used. In spite of watching some videos I have to admit that I am still not sure what all of them really mean. However, all of that aside, I would like some feedback/advice on how this could be improved.

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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by pbacot » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:52 am

Looks great. :^: I think you have a lot of detail there in one picture and no need for more. The metal frames stand out well over the black rollers etc. so it's easy to read the picture. Would be fun to see it animated, spinning and swishing.
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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by ntxdave » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:56 am

Decided to go create a much smaller version of the render so that I could post it here and hope that I can get some feedback/suggestions. The render was created with 03.Low+ setting.
Sample 150ft Render_Ortho.png
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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by ntxdave » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:11 am

pbacot wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:52 am Looks great. :^: I think you have a lot of detail there in one picture and no need for more. The metal frames stand out well over the black rollers etc. so it easy to read the picture. Would be fun to see it animated, spinning and swishing.
Sorry, I did not see your post. I was adding another post myself. Thanks for your feedback.

I do have some OLD animations on ntxdave YouTube but nothing quite as well done as this model. I also had some stuff on Shapespark once upon a time but think those may be dead now.

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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by tuna57 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:52 pm

Generally I think it's a nice image. Like pbacot said it's a lot of info to get across in one view. The only thing I see as a negative is the shadows being thrown by the text and guides, I find them a little distracting to my old eyes. Not sure how you created the image or how easy it would be to kill only those shadows. All in all still :gj: .
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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by pbacot » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:38 pm

And if you can figure out how to not bend up my license plates, that'd be beautiful! :P

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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by ntxdave » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:47 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys...…….I appreciate it. I am trying to figure how if I can improve it in any way.
tuna57 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:52 pm …..The only thing I see as a negative is the shadows being thrown by the text and guides, I find them a little distracting to my old eyes. Not sure how you created the image or how easy it would be to kill only those shadows..... .
This is the biggest distraction to me as well. Since I have shadows turned off, I do not know what is causing the shadows. I am wondering if it might really be reflections. I am still trying and will let you know if I figure out how to solve it.

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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by ntxdave » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:37 pm

OK guys, I think I made an improvement so that the text shows up better...…….let me know what you think.
Sample 150ft Render_Ortho_2.jpg
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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by tuna57 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:38 pm

:^: Definitely makes the text more readable for me.
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Re: Car Wash Equipment Layout Feedback/Advice

Post by Fletch » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:41 pm

To speed up rendering, eliminate reflections where they are not needed, eliminate specular. Try the "Perfect Reflection" templates.
Avoid saturated colors - keep colors below 90% saturation or brightness. These increase errors/render time.
Be sure there are no light emitting materials.

Try Medium, not Medium+ to increase quality without too much time increase.
You can make a custom render setting of the Easy Medium that set the AA to 1.0 - which will cause AA to only render on the edges (not calculating AA inside of reflections - which would appear to not be needed in your scene here)

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