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Zacchia
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Curtain

Post by Zacchia » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:42 am

Here 2 images with curtain on window. I found out: Curtains need amazing much rendertime.

Renderpresent Low+
Image Curtain 2:
Rendertime with Curtain 2 hours
Rendertime without them 10 minutes
Sun as lightsource

I also found out: My PC (4 Treads) is not fast enough... Problems with rendertimes is first Hardware and then Software! So i need new Hardware but i have to wait some years for that :roll: How many treads should be in a PC?
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Chris
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Re: Curtain

Post by Chris » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:10 pm

The curtains, especially in the second image, look great! Good job.
The picture on the wall in the first seems strangely muted.

And yes, translucent materials do add a lot of time to the render.

dspace
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Re: Curtain

Post by dspace » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:36 pm

The scene looks decent and looks like you're moving in the right direction. :)
But beside the curtains, wish you could have worked other mats as well, seems too dried up. :(
Sometimes it's tought but keep trying!

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Re: Curtain

Post by Zacchia » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:55 am

Chris wrote:
The picture on the wall in the first seems strangely muted.
This is because i was not able to set reflections like it has to be, i know this is not so good :halo:
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Zacchia
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Re: Curtain

Post by Zacchia » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:49 pm

Here the same picture rendered with Interior 11 hours 25 minutes :wall: in size 427x342 and saved as hdr. Then opend with Motiva and saved as jpg in 1280 x 1024. Interior is definitively not my Present. After 11 hours it is not so much better then low+, is it even better? I guess i will never use unibiased Presents...
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dspace
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Re: Curtain

Post by dspace » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:22 am

Zac, Zac..! It's worse maybe. :D
But you know, I didn't ask you run an unbiased yet. I just wanted you to spend more time with the mats.
Hmmm.......I ran a couple of test on biased method with the demo just to see how different it might look.
Poor scene , poor lights....but probably I scraped through with the mats..hope you don't mind, but it's for reference. :)
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Re: Curtain

Post by notareal » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:48 am

Zacchia that is not a fair comparison for several reasons. Backround image is not same (or located similarly) , that changes mood of the render a lot. Other render uses AA and the other has no super-sampling. When saving as hdr from unbiased rendering, it's your responsibility to do super-sampling and post pro. You should always use supers-ampling when rendering with a small resolution (under 2000 pixels wide). Also your post pro has made hdr render rather flat. These jpg seems to have also different compression ratios and different compression artifacts too.

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Re: Curtain

Post by dspace » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:45 am

It's was meant literally as a comparison for a couple of mats. Definetly not the scene.
Thanks notareal, hope I can help out in better ways next time. :)

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Re: Curtain

Post by olishea » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:09 pm

you need more work on materials, they are very flat at the moment. also, you cannot expect a nice render with no detail, no matter how much post process you do. nice renders dspace, wall reflections look great :gj:
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Re: Curtain

Post by dspace » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:46 pm

Thanks Oli, just thought seeing is more believing and there're always much more to learn, esp from you guys! :)

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