Scatter Plugin. Problems.

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baz
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Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by baz » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:35 am

Anybody having any success with scatter in Twilight?
I am having no trouble with simple test scenes so I'm sure I have the various settings right. But when I try to render a largish scene, (about 107000 grass objects) Twilight seems to get stuck 'Initializing Meshes'. If I give up after 15 mins or so and try to cancel the render, Sketchup locks up the whole computer and it's back to cntrl, alt, delete again. This is on Preset 01 btw.
My puter is pretty good, lots of ram, mid-range graphics card, 4 core i5 cpu.

Or are 107000 objects just too much?
I would like to see some twilight renders with scatter if you could point me at any?

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by Chris » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:39 am

An image with that many objects should really only be rendered using Interior/Interior+ (unbiased).

Also, you may notice that the materials that Skatter uses usually use translucency; this is a pretty slow render method (though it can produce the most realistic results) so you may be better off changing it to a shiny plastic template.

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by baz » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:30 am

Thanks Chris, didn't know about needing to use unbiased.

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by Fletch » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:27 am

Easy 08 for exteriors (lit with sun and sky) with Scatter is the fastest render setting and works well in our testing.

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by baz » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:03 pm

Thanks Fletch. Be good if there were some guides out there. I don't know how a newbie like me is supposed to know this stuff.
Nothing about this on Sketchuducation, Skatter manual and until now Twilight. Very frustrating working in the dark, or twilight :D

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by Fletch » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:23 am

In the Tips and Tricks forum there are many helpful Tutorials.
Subject: Best Of Tips and Tricks - The Master List - V2.x

Here's the one for Skatter, we created a while back.
Subject: Create a Lush Grass Lawn with Skatter Plugin #Skatter

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by baz » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:27 am

Thanks Fletch.

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Re: Scatter Plugin. Problems.

Post by romark » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:18 am

Chris wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:39 am
An image with that many objects should really only be rendered using Interior/Interior+ (unbiased).

Also, you may notice that the materials that Skatter uses usually use translucency; this is a pretty slow render method (though it can produce the most realistic results) so you may be better off changing it to a shiny plastic template.
I'm trying to build "my own" vertical ivy walls...
In the exercise below I use leafs from the Twilight Red Carpet Club (which I've updated for the latest editions of SketchUp and Twilight), spread with Skatter, all renderings in Easy 08.
Switching from the original leaf templates (2 min) to plastic (6 min) and back to Twilight Legacy templates (3 min).

Hardly any difference between these pictures...
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